WOMEN TODAY- Safm Radio.


Interview between Samten de Wet and Nancy Richards of Women Today.

Wednesday 26th August 1998.


NR. So Goddesses we promised and Goddesses it is to start with today, with Samten de Wet. Samten is a one time Buddhist monk, but he is also an artist, a publisher and a avid Tarot researcher. But at this stage we'll just go with the Goddesses. And Sam's chosen deity in particular who is known as the Green Tara. Welcome Sam, nice to have you with us.


NR. Sam, the Green Tara is who?


S. The Green Tara is a Tibetan Deity that can be traced back 1,400 years to the transmission of Hindu deities across the Himalayas into Tibet.

She is archetypal in the sense that she represents the Mary of Tibetan Buddhism, or the Kwan Ying of Chinese Buddhism.

She stands for nurturing and compassion

Green as a pile of emeralds

Now what is interesting about worshiping the Goddess

Our vice President, or President Elect

Has been speaking extensively about an African Renaissance. Well if you think about it…A Renaissance can not be brought into effect without considering the Goddess for the simple reason

To be born

A Renaissance is a rebirthing

So the Goddess is central to Rebirth.




In one way there is an in another way there has been a severe collapse

Pol Pot's atrocities in Cambodia

Our civilization is suffering from

To change the course of history at the moment

There is a

A force


Is maybe coming

Power dressing

The emphasis

Not inculcating altruistic

Sylvia Glasser

Social energenered

She is an example of

Formed an entire entirely new

Which is acclaimed international

Goddess implies

Almost up on a pedestal

We must see the archetypes of Goddess as


In the smallest details of kindness and caring. As we say in Buddhism, We wish to serve all sentient being - Kindness is central to Buddhism - Generosity is central to Buddhism. Not worshiping something that is cosmically unobtainable. It is in the details of political could manifest

In your manifest

In one article


Well in your magazine

The Goddess is manifested quite strongly


In one article in particular is called 'The Culture of


Andros is the male and Gynos is the female

So gynocracy is the new feminine based matrix. Matrix. Matrix of course is a feminine name.

We talk about patriarch but we never talk about matriarchal

Gimbutas, who is greatly influential in my life, who died recently

She was a Ju who discovered the ancient Goddess layer of Europe.

And then there is also Merlyn Stone, who concentrated more on the Jewish, Israelite

Basis - in which there was also a Goddess matrix, beneath Judaism, very deeply beneath Judaism,

In which there was also a

And in Christianity as well

In Egypt we see the nurturing Isis, with the baby Horus. So the images of the Nurturer go back far longer than the images of the warring male, the Martian images of chariots and men going to do battle.


You mention a number of names.

A little bit goddess-like in their own right, do you think that in every women is the potential

Yes and in every man! This is using a Jungian perspective

We use two Latin terms anima and animus

Anima represents the feminine, or the volatile, and animus represents the fixed. So, the male is always involved with the logical rational operations, and the female is always involved in the intuitive and creative aspects. And this is quite interesting because a friend of mine had three daughters and three sons. And one day I asked her how was it to have three sons in sequence and then to have three daughters in sequence. What was the difference in your life.


Quite a few I should think


One central point came out. She said: " Well the boys went off and did their own thing but the girls wanted to stay with me - for instance the man cuts the roast and the women serves the veg.

The men went out and hunted for the meat and the women tended the agriculture, the corn. So that the women, the mother culture was always socially orientated, socialistic in that sense. The male was always warring and inventive

New territories. Those two aspects


I have the feminine and the male, I have the hunter and I have the nurturer.

And women have it as well. If we see it from the Jungian perspective as an archetypal perspective


The male female Goddess God falls away

Guess at the end of the day it's all about balance.

But the archetypal Goddess surely has got to be Venus and I know that very soon

Very briefly tell what that is going to entail.


Its on Monday the 7th of September - yes It’s a long process, its been workshops that have taken place in Italy, and in Johannesburg, one talk for the Jung Gauteng Centre, and working with some Jungians in Milan, Italy, it basically starts with Botticelli's Birth of Venus, and looking at Renaissance Art

that represents the Renaissance.

Renaissance Art which represents the Goddess

Once again, if we think of the Goddess representing the Rebirth in society


Represents the Goddess


Venus is very strong within Renaissance art

The Renaissance was a rebirth in Italy and the images of beauty, the images of creativity, and the images of the nurturing Mother were profoundly strong within Ferrara, within Florence, within Mantua, within Rome.

There was a feminine Renaissance in Italy itself in the 15th and 16th Century.

So your workshop will be taking at that Renaissance as it was right up to the present day.


S. Yes, and looking at the potential for a Renaissance, both individually within us, and in our society. We must not see it as something that is … you know … It's not just an African Renaissance, it is Cape Townian Renaissance

If we could get Cape Town to represent the beauty and creativity of the Goddess, we are getting somewhere.


NR. Well it is called the Mother City


S. Exactly, exactly!


NR. Sometimes a little damaged, however.


S. We should dedicate it to the Goddess, this city.

NR. We should do it.

Samten, thanks very much for joining us

It's been a great pleasure.

That was Samten de Wet talking about Goddesses and Renaissance.

Or his Birth of Venus Workshop

Just give him a chance to get home first…